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West Sussex > Blog > Writers retreat secrets

So what really goes on at a writers' retreat?

By Mark Hoult

There's been a real boom in the popularity of creative writing weekends over the last few years. There are some who say writers retreats are a waste of time, pandering to writers' fragile egos and encouraging people to believe they have writing talents which they, frankly, lack.

But on the other hand, many writers really enjoy them and swear that a weekend away with other writers is a positive part of the creative process.

The truth about writers' weekends away

So what's the truth about writers' retreats?

Chichester writer Katy Lassetter is organising a writers' retreat after Easter at Cobnor, near Chichester Harbour in West Sussex. So who better to ask what goes on at these creative writing weekends?

I met up with Katy to find out what really happens once the doors are closed and the pens start twitching.

Q. Writers’ retreats have a mixed reputation. They’re sometimes characterised as places where poor writers get to bolster their confidence but don’t learn much about writing. What do you think?

Katy: I would say that’s quite a cynical view and, like everything, you get out what you put in.

"...you get out what you put in..."
My Writers’ Retreat is designed to inspire so yes they do help to bolster your confidence in a way because the workshops enable you to break down the barriers that stop you putting pen to paper and to look for things to motivate you. We have one workshop this year with successful author Penelope Bush who will guide writers to find ideas for plots and provide them with tips on voice – there is plenty that attendees will learn from Penelope’s insight and experience, no matter what genre of writing they’re interested in.

A saucy reputation

Q. Writers’ retreats also have a bit of a saucy reputation. Max Dunbar of Succour magazine, for one, claims that “creative writing workshops and courses allow shy and sensitive people to get laid”. Is there any truth behind this reputation?

"...a good way for shy, sensitive types to meet like-minded people and perhaps leave their inhibitions behind..."
Katy: (laughs) All I can say to that is that the only sparks flying at my workshops and retreats, so far, have been those of creativity - and perhaps a few from the campfire where we listened to live music and ate marshmallows in 2011. Having said that, writers’ retreats are a good way for shy, sensitive types to meet like-minded people and perhaps leave their inhibitions behind with regard to creative writing but that’s about as far as it goes. How about that for a segue?!

Q. But isn’t it better for a writer to retreat somewhere away from other people to explore their creativity?

Katy:In a way, yes. As inspirational as listening to a conversation on a train can be, having time to think and be away from the hum-drum and distractions of everyday life is very useful.

This is exactly why I chose Cobnor Activities Centre as a venue. It’s based in Chichester Harbour so it is right next to the water but has stunning views over the South Downs too; it’s also easily accessible from West Sussex and Hampshire. During the summer, the Centre can be a hive of activity but during the low season it’s tranquil and it was actually on a walk to Cobnor Point (a walk that I included in the 2011 programme and again in the 2013 programme) that I first became inspired to attempt my first novel.

I make sure to book the venue when there’s less going on so that the writers can be at one with the stunning surroundings. There’s also plenty of space so that attendees can find an area to maintain solitude, if needed.

Is writing really a team sport?

Q. So what part does teamwork play in the creative writing process?

Katy: The whole idea behind the Writers’ Retreats and Creative Writing Workshops that I organise is to encourage creative writing in West Sussex and beyond.

I ask published authors and writers to run workshops where the members of the group will get the chance to inspire one another. They spend time looking at examples, thinking, mind-mapping, sharing ideas, and drawing on the group dynamic.

"...you get a far wider spectrum of creative thinking when bouncing ideas off of others..."
As a writer that works from home, it’s all very well sitting down with the intention of formulating a new idea (without the interruption of writers’ block, of course) but it’s far more productive, and you get a far wider spectrum of creative thinking, when bouncing ideas off of others.

While writing by nature is quite a solitary activity, a workshop allows you the chance to gain and share initial ideas before refining them and coming up with a completely different short story or poem to the person you sat next to.

But do you have to be any good as a writer?

Q. How hard is it to balance the needs of attendees who are very good writers wanting to raise their game a few notches with the needs of people who view a writers’ retreat as just a nice way to spend the weekend?

Katy: It’s actually not as hard as you might imagine.

"...it really doesn’t matter how little or how much writing you’ve done previously..."
Some people looking at coming on these sorts of weekends might fear that they are under-experienced but it really doesn’t matter how little or how much writing you’ve done previously. I write every day but I attend all the sessions myself and I always learn something or discover some new way to find inspiration. The workshops are designed in such a way that, no matter what your writing level or abilities, you can do as little or as much as you like and you can either share what you write or keep it to yourself- there’s no pressure or expectations.

Some people might go away with an idea for a plot while others will go away with a poem to work on or with the chapters that they’ve been working on for ages finally completed. Even if there are people who just view it as a nice way to spend the weekend, good for them! There’s a lot to be gained just by getting away and meeting new people. That, to me, is inspirational in itself and can be used to motivate creative writing even when you return home.

Where does creativity really come from?

Q. When it comes to creative writing, do you think you either have a unique way of looking at the world or you don’t?

Katy: Each person has their own individual experiences and can therefore draw on those to shape their outlook. However, at the same time, most of us have access to the media, especially the internet, and this can help to shape the way that we look at the world also. I suppose, it all comes down to what inspires you most – is it a view over the South Downs or is it a news story that you read? For most, I think that it would be a combination of factors and therefore part of an outlook would be totally unique while another part of it would be comparable to that of others – this would also make the writing easier for the reader to identify with.

Q. How do you learn creativity?

"Creativity is innate and creative workshops help you to unlock what’s already there..."
Katy: I’m not sure you can learn creativity, per se. Creativity is innate and creative workshops help you to unlock what’s already there. I suppose that you could liken it to therapy, in that everyone’s got the potential to be creative but some are more naturally expressive while others need a little more coaxing, if they want to explore it further.

Fear and loathing in a writers' workshop?

Q. When you bring a group of people together it always creates an interesting dynamic. How do you stop attendees showing off?

Katy: I’ve never actually come across that. I think I’ve been very lucky in that groups that are attracted to my Writers’ Retreats and Creative Writing Workshops are all very friendly and mild-mannered. The group dynamic has always been really good.

Q. And how do you make sure that the shrinking violets don’t get squashed?

Katy: As there’s been no showing off there’s not been an opportunity for any squashing. You don’t really see any competitiveness just people sharing ideas and either enjoying the views and tranquillity or getting their heads down and scribbling.

Q. Does everyone really have one good book in them? Are there exceptions?

"...potentially, everyone has something interesting to say..."
Katy: I wouldn’t go as far as to say that but I think that, potentially, everyone has something interesting to say so it’s great when they put their thoughts on paper. Like I said, everyone’s got a bit of creativity in them but it’s just up to them how they want to utilise it. Writing isn’t for everyone – painting or photography might be more fulfilling for others. For those that do want to write, it doesn’t have to be a quest to create the next great novel; some prefer to write poetry while others like to keep journals.

5 great writers to share a weekend away

Q. If you were putting together a panel of five writers from any period in history to present at one of your writers’ retreats, who would they be and what subject would you ask each them to talk about?

Katy: I think my list would have to contain

  • Alexander McCall Smith
  • AA Milne
  • Stephanie Meyer
  • Shakespeare (I’d also like to see him in the flesh and solve that “mystery”)
  • Agatha Christie
I’d like to know what inspired / inspires them to write. I’ve enjoyed trips to Stratford-upon-Avon, Shakespeare’s birthplace, a few times. I’ve also been to Ashdown Forest, the setting of Milne’s 100 Acre Woods and visited the area of Devon where Agatha Christie lived and wrote just last year. These are beautiful places, which I’m sure influenced their writing, but I’d like to know what else inspired them to put their pens to paper. I’d also like to know more about two of my favourite modern authors and see how their answers compare.

Return of the Writers' Retreat

Q. You've got a Writers' retreat coming up next week - the Chichester Copywriter Writers' Retreat II. What sort of writers will be attending?

Katy:I’ve tried to strike a balance this time and asked a children’s writer, a young adult writer, a poet, a non-fiction writer and two marketing and PR professionals. At the first event, the focus was very much on fiction writing so this time I wanted to introduce the concepts of journalism, copywriting and the power of non-fiction. I also do a lot of one-to-one training on how to use social media effectively for business so I thought that I’d offer it as a talk designed especially for writers.

Q. Tell us a bit about how you chose the speakers and why you like them?

"I’ve met most of the authors..... via social networking..."
Katy:I’ve met most of the authors that take part in my retreats and workshops via social networking or at writing/book events that I’ve heard about via social media.

I’ve previously worked with Penelope Bush and Mary Atkinson to help raise their author profiles via social media and I’ve helped Mary with Search Engine Optimisation too. Penelope is a very successful author and, when we got talking, I discovered that she wanted to get back in to teaching creative writing classes so I jumped at the chance to get her on-board.

I’ve actually had some involvement in a story massage book project with Mary too just recently, which is very exciting. Mary has such as wealth of experience as a writer, a therapist and a tutor – she’s the perfect person to talk about drawing on various skills to create excellent non-fiction.

Denise Bennett very kindly stepped in at the last minute when a poet couldn’t attend a talk at my first retreat. She’s a lovely lady and we subsequently put on a very successful Creative Writing Day together at Cobnor in November, 2011.

I met Cathy Watts when she did a writing workshop as part of the last Chichester Festivities at Pagham Harbour – we clicked straight away and there’s talk of us running retreats at a new West Sussex location in the future, so watch this space!

So what really goes on?

Q. How is the time divided up between writing, classroom stuff and relaxing and socialising?

"...it’s not all sitting and listening..."
Katy: At the first event we started with a networking event on the Friday evening and it was residential so the writers shared meals together - there was more time for socialising, all-round. However, feedback suggested that the writers wanted more time in workshops along with some free-time for writing so for this event that’s what I’ve concentrated on.

There are four hours of workshops (including a group walk), three hours of free-writing time and two hours of socialising/relaxing on the first day and the programme reflects much the same on day two. Also, within workshops it’s not all sitting and listening, there is a combination of group writing exercises and individual exercises so there’s a chance for everyone to get to know each other while learning and getting inspired – it’s win, win!

Q. The speakers at your retreat are all women. Is it a very female dominated affair?

Katy: At my last event Stewart Ferris gave a talk about how to get inspired to write and he was brilliant. I put out feelers to find male authors for this event, to no avail. I think that’s mainly because I do a lot of social networking and the vast majority of writers that I communicate with via Twitter and Facebook are women.

I’d certainly like to have some male authors give more talks and workshops and so if there are any male Sussex authors out there who would like to connect with me online and are looking to run a talk at a future retreat or one-day workshop, do get in touch!

Do you need to be any good at writing?

Q. How good a writer do you need to be to consider attending?

"...we’ve had people who haven’t picked up a pen since school but have some ideas swimming around in their heads..."
Katy: I think that people can get put off because they assume that you need to have had some sort of writing experience or a career in something arty to attend a writers’ retreat. That’s not the case; we’ve had people who haven’t picked up a pen since school but have some ideas swimming around in their heads right up to people who have already drafted their first novel. The idea is to unlock the ideas and creativity that our otherwise busy lives can stop us accessing and nothing to do with how many manuscripts you’ve completed.

5 great reasons to go on a writing weekend?

Q. As a writer yourself, what have been the 5 most interesting things you learned from the last Writers’ Retreat you organised?

Katy: 1. Everyone is so different and people use these kinds of weekends to get exactly what they want from them, which is great. In 2011, we had some writers using their free-writing time to type furiously while overlooking the water, some used the time to go to the classroom and borrow the Centre’s equipment to surf the internet and research their next piece of writing while others sat contemplatively, taking in the view.

"...you open your mind and allow yourself to immerse in creativity..."
2. Writers love the opportunity to escape from everyday life. There are so many distractions at home – partners, children, pets, the phone, the internet – that sometimes it’s hard to block everything out and crack on with a bit of writing. When you attend a retreat you open your mind and allow yourself to immerse in creativity.

3. There’s a stereotype that suggests that writers are passive bookworms but in 2011 I found that many writers are interested in outdoor activities too. I arranged power boat trips across Chichester Harbour either to Bosham or East Head. The writers got caught in a squall when traveling back from East Head but they loved the excitement of it all. It was just a different way to inspire them and it worked!

4. Even if you are really shy and have no confidence in yourself as a writer, in a small workshop group you will find something to contribute and take away. This is why I keep my events limited to a maximum of 12.

5. Writers really like tea and cake – but I think I had an inkling of that already!

I thought you'd never mention the cakes

Q. I'm glad you mentioned cake. I know the cakes are pretty good at the retreat. What’s the secret?

Katy: Good old fashioned home-baking.

At the first Writers’ Retreat, which was residential, my mum was on site making breakfast, lunch and dinner. We had a BBQ on the Saturday evening and an afternoon tea, with homemade scones and cakes, before the writers departed on the Sunday. Both of these went down very well!

This year we’re offering homemade quiche on the Saturday and the much-loved afternoon tea again on the Sunday. We’re also going to have the addition of cakes by Whipped and Baked, a new bakery, run by the very talented Aida Stephens, opening in Guildhall Street, Chichester, at the end of March.

The combination of my mum’s quiches and Aida’s cakes is going to leave the writers inspired to start writing furiously in an effort to start working off some of the calories. Oh yes, they’re in for a real treat!

Find out more about Katy's Writers' Retreat

If you like the idea of attending next week's writer's retreat, you can find out more about the Chichester Writers' Retreat Katy is organising on the 6th-7th April here.

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